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PostPosted by hello1 » Sun Jan 05, 2014 7:00 am

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Re: RADIOFREQUENCY has destroyed my face

PostPosted by DCNGA » Sun Jan 05, 2014 12:05 pm

It is quite possible to have fat loss (atrophy) from RF. We have quite a few members who've suffered from fat loss following RF. According to RF proponents, the 'second generation' RF machines don't cause fat loss but there are quite a few who would disagree with that since they've suffered fat loss with second generation RF.

I'm sorry you're going through this. Lots of great people here who can offer support for your situation.

I'm of the opinion that FGs do indeed have their own set of issues and if not done by one of the top docs in the field of FGs, it's possible to have even more issues. Even top FG docs are no guarantee of a good outcome or being restored to your former self.
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Re: RADIOFREQUENCY

PostPosted by hello1 » Sun Jan 05, 2014 12:41 pm

You can get fat loss from rf
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PostPosted by Kiki » Sun Jan 05, 2014 9:25 pm

RF is like a microwave and cooks your dermis. Also can cause nerve damage (i.e. burning sensation in face which I've had for four years and counting). The fat in your face melts, the collagen disappears, and the epidermis suffers massive trauma causing changed texture and open pores. This is what these machines do. Why they are still being used is only a matter of money.
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Re: RF

PostPosted by hello1 » Mon Jan 06, 2014 9:54 am

Which one did you have ? The doctor from that Clinic is trying to convince me the RF wasn’t the cause ,. But i know what is happening IS from the RF . Except for Fillers i had nothing else done and had fillers for a long time and never had anything like this .
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PostPosted by laurajean13 » Mon Jan 06, 2014 11:48 am

I'm going through the same thing, plus I'm in chronic pain/discomfort from this burn for 5 months. Depigmentation flushing/pinkness, orange peel, slightly melted surface, extreme dermal damage with burning stinging itching prickly sensations in my nerves on lower/mid cheek area and toughness/dryness of skin. And this was done to skin I had refused to treat, because if it's not broke don't fix it. They can reduce peoples lives to 0 quality when done improperly or for the wrong reasons. Are your sensations just itching?

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PostPosted by Erica » Mon Jan 06, 2014 12:25 pm

hello1,

I'm sorry you've had to become a member of this club. :(

I thought you might be interesting in knowing that our member, ajapel, was also damaged by radiofrequency. She is quite knowledgeable regarding this specific device (and is also an RN). You can check out her posts here. Also, she tells her story here: http://www.my-timeless-md-spa-experience.com/
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PostPosted by hello1 » Mon Jan 06, 2014 4:27 pm

Thank you Erica,

I have read her post which help to understand a bit more but also very scary as i am only 10 months out , today i went to see a skin specialist who confirmed i have damaged my skin , she did say that the RF work up to 18 months so it looks like i still have 8 months but reading other post this is not the case , i am soo soo soo scared as i have no confidence left and this is so hard to deal with , i am so angry to have been lied to and stupid to have been so trusty. She also tolf me to go and see my GP so he can refer me to a dermatology , she also said i should go for a dermatology who has experience in RF. She Mentioned a few vitamins and one of them is from DMK efa+ Essential Fatty acid and E , also vitmain D , Collagen etc.. I have been taken everything else but DMK so tomorrow i am going to get some and try. Anything to help , she did say not to go for Fat transfer yet , she think the fat transfer can be good for some and bad for others and if this goes wrong i would be even worse, but if i decide to go for it maybe in two/three years time , i should go for someone who has a LOTS of experience and specialist in that procedure.
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PostPosted by laurajean13 » Tue Jan 07, 2014 1:23 am

Anger is a common emotion amongst us all, and the feeling of trust being broken. I've read that itching can be a sign of healing taking place under the skin.
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PostPosted by djamilia555 » Tue Jan 07, 2014 4:26 am

hello1 wrote:Thank you Erica,

I have read her post which help to understand a bit more but also very scary as i am only 10 months out , today i went to see a skin specialist who confirmed i am damaged my skin is very bad as well as the dents on my cheeks, she did say that the RF work up to 18 months so it looks like i still have 8 months but reading other post this is not the case , i am soo soo soo scared as i have no confidence left and this is so hard to deal with , i am so angry to have been lied to and stupid to have been so trusty. She also tolf me to go and see my GP so he can refer me to a dermatology , she also said i should go for a dermatology who has experience in RF. She Mentioned a few vitamins and one of them is from DMK efa+ Essential Fatty acid and E , also vitmain D , Collagen etc.. I have been taken everything else but DMK so tomorrow i am going to get some and try. Anything to help , she did say not to go for Fat transfer yet , she think the fat transfer can be good for some and bad for others and if this goes wrong i would be even worse, but if i decide to go for it maybe in two years , i should go for someone who has a LOTS of experience and specialist in that procedure.
I fell so ugly and invisible ;-(

Hello 1 i am 9 month out of my damage. I was damaged by the same as ajapel was. I still have new idents and last night was crying because I AM loosing hope. I dont want anything right now but to stop new damages i even can accept my face with this idents but what it will look like in the end ? i am so scared. As for dmk efa+ i have tried it and it didnt help..
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PostPosted by hello1 » Tue Jan 07, 2014 7:35 am

i have itchness all the time and I do fell time to time some sort of tingling but not all the time , I wish it was a sign of Healing .
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PostPosted by djamilia555 » Tue Jan 07, 2014 3:34 pm

thank you for your support. I TOOK dmk only one month . my big mistake is that i always want fast result. I still have full bottle and want to try them again. Dmk products are really good. my best friend and family also do not see all this lines on my face my be because of good make up. i just want it to stabilize. How long it will take? I have noticed one thing i have new wave of damages duringe my period. Be strong girls nothing but time and God can help us!!!
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PostPosted by laurajean13 » Tue Jan 07, 2014 3:45 pm

hello1: I actually had the laser on my tzone (mainly forehead for white scarring with good results) In total I got 3 treatments. However, on the third treatment my doctor I trusted and who knew me was absent minded and busy that day and ended up doing my whole cheek "unit" despite efforts to stop him. I guess he thought it was too late. So across the mid cheek to hairline and down to the jawline. It was never touched, healthy young smooth skin and pretty fine and delicate like a child's skin. The settings were for white scar tissue and were treating deep in dermis and dense and high energy and that lower cheek could not take it. It was painful unlike I ever experienced and pretty much burned me with the top layer intact but vaporized pinholes in my cheek (didn't know you can fit so many). So the whole thing is pretty traumatizing as I always made it clear to doctors I'd never treat what doesn't need fixing. Now that my scars met my realistic expectations and I would've been feeling joy I am left with more problems than I ever had, on an area that was never an issue. Like you I saw my cheeks as my attractive feature. Any more than once and I would have cooked skin once nearly killed me but I am seeing a little improvement but it is so uncomfortable all day I am constantly trying to moisturize with masks ect. I have chronic discomfort, but for 4 months straight it's been severely painful. Just approaching 5 months I have pain periodically, but constant discomfort is still painful in my book. I am also experiencing rosacea like symptoms due to the trauma which I am hoping can resolve. I had very even creamy skintone and it's blotchy and pink all the time now. The dehyrated tougher heated surface though is what is causing major discomfort. I am hoping it can improve but worry.
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PostPosted by Erica » Tue Jan 07, 2014 5:32 pm

There's a theory out there that constant moisturizing actually turns off the oil glands. Of course that theory is based on healthy skin... Just wanted to mention it in case it may help someone. I, personally, like the idea of nothing on the face for periods of time during the day or night, but we're all damaged differently and once again what works for one may not work for another. BTW, for those needing moisture, Psoriagold (here I go again plugging them..lol) makes a white curcumin moisturizer that I think is good. They may send samples of it?
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PostPosted by laurajean13 » Tue Jan 07, 2014 6:11 pm

I don't even know it's not normal dryness the burn scarred the skin and it starts tightening and pulling, it's not supple but even at it's best I can't make it feel "normal".
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PostPosted by djamilia555 » Wed Jan 08, 2014 3:23 am

i have PS WITH WHITE CURCUMIN. Siana said that it has anti inmlamAntary effect but do not inhabit PK ENZYME. I cant say whether it works for me or not because i havent tried it. dOES ANYONE accept Laura dealing with cheeks pain? It can last one or two day a month.
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PostPosted by hello1 » Wed Jan 08, 2014 8:26 am

Hi djamilia555 I think you need to take at least 3 months to even notice a sight change , in fact anything you take or use on the face usually take 3 months to see if it works or not , that is what the skin specialist told me .
I don’t have cheeks pain , just a weird sensation like tinging , what sort of pain it is Laura ?
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PostPosted by KVolek » Wed Jan 08, 2014 10:01 am

I am almost 21 months out and my damage is continuing........... What is dmk?
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PostPosted by KVolek » Wed Jan 08, 2014 10:06 am

oh, and i just wanted to add that because of my skin infection i have not been wearing any makeup for about 2 weeks now. Would you believe that the skin on my cheeks actually looks a bit better. I have only been using the psoria gold because it's literally the only thing my skin can tolerate right now and using a moisturizer on top. I have also only been using glycerin soap and baby shampoo and have given up all my hair product except for a slight bit of hairspray. Now if only the damage would stop on my chin!
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PostPosted by hello1 » Wed Jan 08, 2014 10:07 am

Oh! Nooo which which Rf did you have ? what sort of damage continued ?
DMK is Vitamins with Essential Fatty Acid and Vitamin E supplement , those are very good for the skin , but it is expensive , I paid £45 for 3 months ;-/
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PostPosted by laurajean13 » Wed Jan 08, 2014 10:16 am

The hardest thing for me to cope with is the burned look and the physical pain. I am in so much pain every day I lay in a bed with ice. I wake up and my whole lower cheek feels burned and gets this hardened shiny surface that I fight throughout the day to look and feel more comfortable. I can't win and feel no way to get through this. I have felt so bad about indented scarring on my tzone for years and compared to this on my cheeks, that was easier to handle. My scars miraculously are so much better and I never got to celebrate it because my doctor literally burned all the healthy skin on my face that same day. I just don't know if anyone has experienced chronic pain/discomfort in the day where they couldn't perform daily activities.

I want to believe there is no way I would wake up to these problems for the rest of my life, that there has to be the day it's not an issue in the morning but I don't know I never was damaged with heat before and I can see it's going to take a long long time for it to fully heal under the skin.
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PostPosted by taija82 » Wed Jan 08, 2014 11:04 am

My skin is also getting worse , its sickens me!
My forehead used to be fine now the dents show there as well and i can see my forehead is going to form in wrinkles soon all over. My jawline cystic acne is not going away and I am sure it will scar me.


That's just my luck , I was happy at least my chin and forehead was in better shape few months back and if course my happiness about that was not allowed so cystic acne it is then .

So pissed of I hate my face I hate it!
It takes all joy out of my life and it's just getting worse, I will feel like this for the rest of my life unless my skin heals, which it won't.im also very pale and after wound closing my body simply forgets to finish the job and red scars stay behind for ever.

Why was I so stupid to do this my face? I should have known, my worst fear was my face to worsen and if course it happened. I don't feel like seeing my friends who have poreless skin , I hate them and it's stupid but I can't help it I'm so angry at the world all the time.

I use Psoria gold and emuoil but nothing helps. Very very tired today
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PostPosted by hello1 » Wed Jan 08, 2014 11:17 am

I am sorry to hear you are so much in pain ;-( Have you been to your doctor for the Burn or a good dermatologist ? they might give you something to calm the pain ,
For me it is just very itchy and tingling.
If I remember you are very young , how old again ? because the younger you are the better you heal , it might take a while but it will get better , you need to be patient , I know it is hard, we all like to see ourselves get better straight away or go back how it was but our body doesn’t work like this , it take time to recover from trauma . I still believe it will get better for all of us in time and eventually , it might not be the same but it will get better. And speaking to someone how has been through this a few years ago, gave me hope when she told me her skin got better and her face filled back in a little ;-) see there hop!!
I think you need to sort out the pain , and your Doctor might be the first call if not done already ,perhaps if you could see a doctor who specialist in burns they might have a better understand with the pain . x
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PostPosted by hello1 » Wed Jan 08, 2014 11:32 am

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PostPosted by laurajean13 » Wed Jan 08, 2014 11:54 am

I've been to 5 different derms including the one who did this following up monthly or sometimes more. They are all clueless and can only refer me to another person who has no clue also. I was actually just in on Monday with the doctor who did this and he felt there was a slight improvement from the last time I was in (my face then literally felt like a match was lit under my skin and I was like a deep red) and this medicine called mirvaso was making it worse which is something I wouldn't recommend anyone to try. Rebound was the worst pain of my life. I know laser is a controlled burn in a way for everyone, but it's done in a way that should be only slightly uncomfortable and have a short healing time. My scarred areas were treated twice before and I guess you could say were burned by laser but it healed in a week and looked great 2 weeks later. But my cheeks were literally burned, in a way that i feel like I've got a sheet of burned tissue on my face that hurts everyday from it. The doctors feel bad that this happened and but no one can turn back time and they are clueless to figure out a way to help it. The only other thing I can do other than what I'm doing is take an internal antibiotic or steroid, which is not a long term solution and I have a history of gut problems due to antibiotics which was the reason I had a dermatitis skin condition and scarring in the first place which was why I even needed laser. So it's scary to feel like I could potentially ignite these problems again that took 7 years to resolve through hard work of alternative medicine and lifestyle change. This also damaged the inner workings of my skin so much that doctors might think I could possibly be left with rosacea type symptoms which could be chronic. No sun, bad with temperature change, eating, showers ect. It feels like a prison. I am turning 25 soon and I am 5 months out. All I can do is wait and see what can change slowly over time, but it's scary and uncertain and not looking in my favor. My scars which was the issue look great and now my lower healthy face is burned and I have more skin issues than I came in with. My skin was very fragile on my cheek and the heat changed the way it feels on my face if anyone can relate to that (it feels like this slightly tougher hardened tight mask thats pulling), and I think because it's on soft tissue on my lower jaw mid cheek where there is a lot of movement in the face it feels so uncomfortable. My scars that I was there to treat were from my nose and up condensed in the center, but everything below was fine. So to feel skin that is in chronic pain on the largest area of my face (changing my skin color and texture) is more than I've ever experienced and changed the whole look. I was able to compartmentalize like you said areas of damage, but this literally took a whole sheet of skin down in under a minute. My forehead was treated with the laser 10x harder, it was scarred, subcised ect, and it never caused any pain or had any pinkness more than 2 weeks tops other than breakouts. Whatever this did to the skin was so harsh that my age is not working in my favor. Every doctor feels that erbium laser should not cause prolonged redness and react the way mine did ( which is why they are trying to pin it on an outside reason like induced rosacea or contact dermatitis or sometimes else), but the fact is he basically annihilated a whole sheet of tissue in the dermis on a very high energy without any benefit or reason makes all the sense to me why this happened. Spot treating white scar tissue was nothing like this. I want to continue school but when i wake up with redness and all these issues I feel paralyzed and unable to function. It has to be temporary, even if there is damage it just has to get to a point where it's stable and somewhat comfortable, I just don't know how long that could take.

I honestly thought the worst thing would to be having dents in my face from scars, but this burned laser textured tissue makes me feel worse than I had (both physically and mentally). I think burns are the worst and most painful thing you can go through.
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PostPosted by Mandy » Wed Jan 08, 2014 12:32 pm

Hello1, I just wanted to say I agree with you. I think the trauma of seeing our faces and skin changes makes us zoom in on that one area. My husband tells me all the time that I see things a lot worse then they really are. I know from experience that when you add pain to the mix it adds to anxiety and how you see yourself. I think if we can believe family and friends we would have better self esteem.

When your skin is burning and is paper dry I do think it looks a lot worse during this time period, because dry skin tends to look more wrinkly. When the dryness and burning gets under control I do believe your skin will appear more plumper and not as scarred and lined looking. My skin still looks uneven but it has plumped up were its more live able to look at.
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PostPosted by djamilia555 » Wed Jan 08, 2014 4:27 pm

Does anyone here has damages on the areas untouched by ipl or laser? I have on eyelids and forehead . I dont understand what is it? Dont know how to explain but try to. My new damages are so weird. They like uneven circles.Some of them very large another small but they are not deep. they are forming one over another and a bit deeper than normal skin. Does anyone undersatands what am i talking about? who has damages like this?
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PostPosted by DCNGA » Wed Jan 08, 2014 8:07 pm

Yes, this is a known phenomenon. Some call it 'laser splash'. Do research on active thermal bystander effect or ATBE.
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PostPosted by Mandy » Wed Jan 08, 2014 9:12 pm

I've had this too on my neck. Right after the laser I knowticed my neck looked dry and wrinkly and I never had laser there. I felt like my skin had become dry and sensitive all over.
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PostPosted by Erica » Wed Jan 08, 2014 11:29 pm

I have laser splash too. You can actually see lines on my face where the laser traveled, as well as more of a splash beside the treated areas. My arms were very achy for awhile after damage, I'm sure due to the energy that traveled. Lasers/IPL's are such dangerous devices, I can't believe we live in a world that treats them so casually.
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PostPosted by hello1 » Thu Jan 09, 2014 10:50 am

Nope I don’t suffer from the Laser Splash
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PostPosted by laurajean13 » Thu Jan 09, 2014 12:56 pm

hello1: I do know what you mean about the lines from these holes. It makes my cheek look like it's being streched down to my jaw. They are short and pencil thin fine but throughout the whole cheek and it feels different on my face. Tight. It gives this wrinkly look in certain light. Does your skin feel different to touch, did it make it shinier and feel weird on your face or does it all feel normal and just look different?

Also does anyone's holes look worse after a hot shower? Mine dilate and my cheek looks horrendous after a shower with this horrible orange peel texture, it's always there but just so much worse when wet plus redness still. I still get beat red after showers also with pain and need ice. It feels never ending and eats up hours of my time. We should get a huge sum of money for these damages. Money gives me back no quality to my life and means nothing to me but this is seriously disabling me from working and going to school and getting my life started as a young person. I've had scars but they never interfered with my functioning other than emotional discomfort. What this has done has put my life on hold.

Also researching ahead of time means nothing. I did everything right. I researched for years, I chose my doctor very carefully. He did things right on me twice before, knew my case, I talked to him about how happy I was with my cheeks the week before after he complimented them. 7 days later he destroys them in the area I was against treating since day 1. He treated a smooth cheek like you'd treat someone with severe scarring, and I am prone to redness have thin dry skin which are all things that can cause complications. He basically burned holes and a whole sheet of dermis on what was just for remolding and spot treating scars. I thought highly of him, he thought highly and careful himself. He knew me for 3 1/2 years. Worst luck I guess. Just the wrong day at the wrong time and the communication broke down. I knew all these negative side effects that they claimed couldn't happen but I knew they could and based my decisions off of that. I chose laser as a last resort for fibrous bumpy scarring that was very irregular and white to give it a shot because I had nothing to lose (texture wise) and it was on non sensitive areas. But I refused since day 1 to ever let a doctor touch healthy skin. Even the doctors that earn your trust, do you right many times and even if you make smart decisions, people can make mistakes on you and when someone has a device that can burn skin in their hands that makes for an unforgivable consequence. It is still the best decision I ever made for my scarring... but I did this for quality of life and I can't find the point of making my scars better if I got 50% of my healthy skin burned and scarred instead. It makes living with my scarring look like the better deal.
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PostPosted by laurajean13 » Thu Jan 09, 2014 4:34 pm

I've gone to 5 doctors made an appointment for another next week and called a burn place and no one can help so far. The sensation I feel is like when you put your finger on a hot pan and after you take it away you have that lingering sting burn. That's what my whole lower cheek feels like every day all day. Then it looks like a hot pan hit it too with this shiny singed surface. And it cant retain moisture and feels tight and when I lotion it, it just stings. Plus to the eye it's very disturbing to me, more so than indented scars which says a lot. Wondering if there is hope.
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PostPosted by Erica » Thu Jan 09, 2014 8:09 pm

LJ, Is the doctor who did this helping you in any way? Seems like he knows he made a mistake.

FYI- On the showering, I know some have realized their hair products were getting on their face,making things worse. Just wanted to point that out although guessing you've already considered that.
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PostPosted by laurajean13 » Fri Jan 10, 2014 12:06 am

Yea with showering I always use very mild shampoos, natural ingredients without anything harsh and I don't really wash my face anymore not to strip oils. Sometimes I actually put this complete tissue repair wax on before hand to keep it from stripping. Yesterday was very bad, but today it was less inflamed after showering (but inflamed before the shower). It just has a mind of it's own. Trying to consider everything.

The doctor is obviously not pleased with the outcome, and the fact that I am so upset about it. He obviously wouldn't do something I didn't want but the communication or lack of that day led to this problem. Sometimes I feel like these doctors are so busy sometimes and doing this all day that he just ended up doing the "standard" cheek area because he didn't really put thought into me, my face or my case. It's sad because he ALWAYS does, just not that day. He does want to help but the things I can do are limited unfortunately. I think all doctors want to help but medicine is lacking. Sucks because if he just did the scarred areas I wanted I would've been complimenting him and ending treatments for good (which is a relief after 3 1/2 years of feeling like I'd never reach that point of contentment). He gave Mirvaso but the rebound was horrific. I was hoping it's be a great thing to use in the meantime with redness but the side effects are worse than my original problem, so getting 2 or 3 hours of relief isn't worth it. The doctor does feel bad and thinks about it he says, but the only thing he can offer is to target internally with a long low dose antibiotic for 2 months for inflammation which I am no way ready to do. Then he's saying take probiotics. I'm just not ready to start giving myself yeast and bowel problems. I have suffered from that for 7 years from "antibiotic overdose" giving me a pretty shot immune system. I think I'm better off waiting it through and just seeing what happens. In the past he was kind of condescending and defensive, but this last week he was much more humble.

What it did to the whole surface of my lower face is very upsetting. I feel kind of stripped and humiliated after years of scarring and now this on the last area I actually identified with as the healthy old me. To have no normal skin on my face just makes me feel bad. Sometimes I can detach a little and have some strength and other times I crumble and can't see a life a head of me. The latter is more frequent.

Can orange peel waxy surface improve? Does skin eventually stop hurting and inflaming? Do any of the holes ever shrink or disappear, or is everything what it is? We should start a thread on positive signs of healing and share things that are getting better.
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Re: RADIOFREQUENCY has damaged my face .

PostPosted by taija82 » Fri Jan 10, 2014 12:41 am

That's a good idea LJ!!, combine everything positive in regards of healing , it's hard to find positive info when it's so scattered among the posts.
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PostPosted by hello1 » Fri Jan 10, 2014 8:03 am

That sound very painful laurajean, but surely the pain will fade in time , I don’t think my doctors understand how those device work , they only see it as safe but when it goes wrong they don’t understand or know how to deal with it , that is why anyone up there who is thinking of having RF, Laser, IPL ect.. think very hard , because even the best of doctors can make a mistake, crucial burns, itchness and tingling , nerves damages, damage to the skin , the epidermis, fat atrophy, fat loss , dentation and it goes on , please read all the posts we are all suffering physically and mentally. Believe me you don’t want to join this post and be one of us , this is life changing for a lot of us .
Yes that would be great to see all the positive and improvement on people who had it a few years back ., this would give us hope.
I don’t think the skin will get back how it was but over time it should improve . I can almost cope with the very bad skin I have now, but the fat loss is is bad, it is now very long and drag down .
I am having my first counselling session next Friday hoping she be able to help me build my confidence back . I like to post some photos to show how bad those device can do to people but not sure how , but will try.
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Re: RADIOFREQUENCY has damaged my face .

PostPosted by DCNGA » Fri Jan 10, 2014 11:13 pm

It's not possible to post pictures directly on the open forum. You'll need to post them to an external site and link to them in a post here. Sorry.
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PostPosted by hello1 » Wed Jan 22, 2014 7:56 am

I have have weird whithe white patch under my nose , could it be because the blood stop circulate there or could it be some sort of pigmentation , I am very worried again as this seem to be spreading , if i exercise my face get red but not where the patches are , has anyone experience the same ?Also the fat under my eyes is almost all gone which make my eye look
sunken has anyone find the fat get back there ? this is my 11th months out and still no improvement grrrrr
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Re: RADIOFREQUENCY has damaged my face .

PostPosted by DCNGA » Wed Jan 22, 2014 10:43 am

What products?

I have no idea or way of knowing, but it could possibly be hypopigmentation. Lasers/IPL have been known to cause this. I am not sure about RF and hypo, however.

You might check with a derm (who does not perform these treatments or use these devices) and get their input. I'm doubting a topical skin product would contribute to pigment loss in the skin, unless it contained bleaching agents, but I'm not a skin specialist.
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